{"id":13414,"date":"2021-10-04T07:27:09","date_gmt":"2021-10-04T01:57:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.seminarsonly.com\/news\/?p=13414"},"modified":"2021-10-04T07:27:09","modified_gmt":"2021-10-04T01:57:09","slug":"lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/","title":{"rendered":"Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won&#8217;t work Properly in Chrome"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won&#8217;t work Properly in Chrome<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>To prevent your devices from breaking, you may have to upgrade to a newer version of Let&#8217;s Encrypt after this week&#8217;s expiration of its root certificate.<\/p>\n<p>To ensure that no one can intercept and steal your data while it&#8217;s in transit, the nonprofit Let&#8217;s Encrypt creates certificates that encrypt connections between your devices and the wider internet. Let&#8217;s Encrypt is used by hundreds of thousands of websites all over the world alone. Let&#8217;s Encrypt&#8217;s current root certificate (the IdentTrust DST Root CA X3) was set to expire on September 30th, according to security researcher Scott Helme&#8217;s warning. Users will no longer be able to use any certificates that were issued by this certificate authority once their certificates have expired.<\/p>\n<div class=\"rich-text-editor parbase section\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"center-block img-responsive margin-top-4x margin-bottom-4x image-6c3b76ae9a974067b757d66d8feb7837 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/now.symassets.com\/content\/dam\/norton\/global\/images\/non-product\/misc\/tlc\/your_connection.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"683\" height=\"509\" \/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>There is no need for concern for the vast majority of website users as everything will continue as usual on September 30. If you&#8217;re using an older device and the AddTrust External CA Root has expired, you may experience issues. As a result, services from Stripe, Red Hat, and Roku were all down.<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800000;\">There are many posts from today on community.letsencrypt.org for this topic.<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>From my side, I can confirm, that me personally, I also do own a\u00a0<strong>chrome on windows 7<\/strong>\u00a0device and\u00a0<strong>it&#8217;s broken<\/strong> , as of this moment. Meaning, when trying to access any website, which uses let&#8217;s encrypt certificates, a big red banner &#8220;not secure&#8221; is displayed instead by your web browser, preventing you from visiting all such sites. I do not have the device with me at this moment to doublecheck, but I did try other browsers few hours ago and <strong>it is a possibility, that all web browsers on windows 7 are broken<\/strong> , starting today. I saw some info in mass media from the past days, but none of them mentioned windows 7, they only mentioned windows xp gets broken.<\/p>\n<p>If you are able to see this with your old device, without somehow working around a big red &#8220;not secure&#8221; banner shown by your browser, then I guess your old device is fine and not affected.<\/p>\n<p>I am not sure, how many chrome on windows 7 people are still there in the world (it would certainly be nice to find some relatively reliable info on this, I did not find anything so far, dare I guess millions?). But I guess it is a no go for all of them to go and use, what was suggested already by Nils Hamerlinck. Also, chrome on windows 7 might be a big group I guess, but certainly not the only one affected.<\/p>\n<p>aa) Are you aware of any other options to solve this, than what Nils Hamerlinck already suggested?<\/p>\n<p>bb) Are you aware of any (reasonably reliable) info sources on which different devices\/device groups are broken\/affected?<\/p>\n<p>cc) Are you aware of any (reasonably reliable) sources for guessing how many people are still actively using such devices?<\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Possible Solution<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Edit:<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #800000;\">For aa) &#8211; options to solve:<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>As mentioned by some sources (for example\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/community.letsencrypt.org\/t\/help-thread-for-dst-root-ca-x3-expiration-september-2021\/149190\/537\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/community.letsencrypt.org\/t\/help-thread-for-dst-root-ca-x3-expiration-september-2021\/149190\/537<\/a>) , &#8216;if you are on windows 7, then use firefox instead of chrome&#8217; might possibly be a solution for some people. (My layman guess is, that significant part of those up-to-40-million affected people might go this way in the long term.)<\/li>\n<li>I did not check this myself yet, but some sites, for example this one\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/docs.microsoft.com\/en-us\/answers\/questions\/202270\/how-to-enable-the-34automatic-root-certificates-up.html\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/docs.microsoft.com\/en-us\/answers\/questions\/202270\/how-to-enable-the-34automatic-root-certificates-up.html<\/a>\u00a0, seem to suggest, that some &#8216;automatic root certificates update&#8217; feature is supposed to exist on windows 7. I am not sure yet how it works, or how to turn it on. Might also be too complicated for a non-technical person, but I don&#8217;t know yet, I&#8217;ll try to check this later.<\/li>\n<li>One version of the future is, that many people will just notice, like, &#8216;ah, this old device somehow got broken eventually&#8217; , and will throw the old device away to trash. (Assuming, those do own some newer device as an alternative. Dare I say, that this might be the preferred version of the future for some stakeholders?)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #800000;\">For bb) &#8211; affected device groups:<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>There is one source from let&#8217;s encrypt on this,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/letsencrypt.org\/docs\/certificate-compatibility\/\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/letsencrypt.org\/docs\/certificate-compatibility\/<\/a>\u00a0. On the windows 7 topic, it does say, that with &#8216;automatic root certificates update&#8217; feature enabled is supposed to not be broken (I am not sure yet what to think about this).<\/li>\n<li>There are some sights on apple support forum (for example\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/253203934\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/253203934<\/a>\u00a0) . It might be, that, in addition to &#8216;chrome on windows 7&#8217; group, devices with older macos versions might be another significant affected group.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #800000;\">For cc) &#8211; people count:<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>One source,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/#all-sites-by-os\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/analytics.wikimedia.org\/dashboards\/browsers\/#all-sites-by-os<\/a>\u00a0, says, that 2.3% of wikipedia.org (and sister sites) visitors use windows 7, as of the day 19-sep-2021. (For comparison: windows 10 is listed there as 23%, in other words, 1 in every 10 windows machines is still on windows 7 as of today, sep-2021.) Other source,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/stats.wikimedia.org\/#\/all-wikipedia-projects\/reading\/unique-devices\/normal%7Cline%7C2-year%7C(access-site)%7Emobile-site*desktop-site%7Cmonthly\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/stats.wikimedia.org\/#\/all-wikipedia-projects\/reading\/unique-devices\/normal%7Cline%7C2-year%7C(access-site)~mobile-site*desktop-site%7Cmonthly<\/a>\u00a0, says, that 1.7 billion unique devices visited wikipedia.org in aug-2021 . Multiplying those two numbers gives cca 40 millions of windows 7 devices being actively used as of today (sep-2021). (Funny, if all those really got broken today, suddenly, and noone cares.)<\/li>\n<li>There is a yahoo article,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/news\/internet-goes-down-millions-tech-021400230.html\" rel=\"nofollow noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/news\/internet-goes-down-millions-tech-021400230.html<\/a>\u00a0. This is the first mass media article I am aware of, which is openly and publicly stating, that &#8216;millions of people were affected&#8217; . Also, the topic is at this moment #5 on news.google.com in tech section (01-oct-2021 15:30 utc).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won&#8217;t work Properly in Chrome To prevent your devices from breaking, you may have to upgrade to a newer version of&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.2 (Yoast SEO v27.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won&#039;t work Properly in Chrome - Seminarsonly.com<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"To ensure that no one can intercept and steal your data while it&#039;s in transit, the nonprofit Let&#039;s Encrypt creates certificates that encrypt connections between your devices and the wider internet.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won&#039;t work Properly in Chrome\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"To ensure that no one can intercept and steal your data while it&#039;s in transit, the nonprofit Let&#039;s Encrypt creates certificates that encrypt connections between your devices and the wider internet.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Seminarsonly.com\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/facebook.com\/seminarsonly\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2021-10-04T01:57:09+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/now.symassets.com\/content\/dam\/norton\/global\/images\/non-product\/misc\/tlc\/your_connection.png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Freddy John\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@seminarsonly\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@seminarsonly\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Freddy John\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"5 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Freddy John\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/#\/schema\/person\/75cf706896b7210fb0a84651adc258bd\"},\"headline\":\"Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won&#8217;t work Properly in Chrome\",\"datePublished\":\"2021-10-04T01:57:09+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/\"},\"wordCount\":962,\"commentCount\":0,\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\/\/now.symassets.com\/content\/dam\/norton\/global\/images\/non-product\/misc\/tlc\/your_connection.png\",\"articleSection\":[\"news\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/seminarsonly.com\/news\/lets-encrypts-root-certificate-has-expired-your-site-wont-work-properly-in-chrome\/\",\"name\":\"Let\u2019s Encrypt\u2019s root certificate has expired : Your Site won't work Properly in Chrome - 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